Last week I was one of the several hundreds of PHP developers who traveled “all te way” to Amsterdam for the Dutch PHP Conference 2010. Though I had the impression that many PHP developers are using the symfony framework for their web applications, the speakers at this conference were friendlier towards the “father of the framework”, Fabien Potencier, than towards the framework itself. Fabien is a much admired developer himself, who is very conscious about software architecture, latest trends in PHP development and also is aware of the importance of fully covering the framework’s code with unit tests. In this article I will try to apply to the symfony framework, several comments on PHP programming and frameworks that I heard during this conference.